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Tombent les Masques: sous-titres anglais
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A painter, 50-odd models. Under the artist's penetrating eye, the masks fall away. A device which offers the viewer a rare experience, sketching the portrait of several friendships, and at the same time a clever stratagem for getting closer to people and their peculiarities. What image does the other project to us? And we to the other? A relentless exploration of the theme of seeing, registering, hearing. A film about self-knowledge.
0001) 00:02:05:03 00:02:09:23 Duree :04:20 Lisibilite :76
Beneath the masks
0002) 00:03:35:17 00:03:39:01 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
I come here from time to time,
and see the family get bigger.
0003) 00:03:39:11 00:03:42:14 Duree :03:03 Lisibilite :49
This family of ghosts,
or of presences, I don't know.
0004) 00:03:43:00 00:03:48:12 Duree :05:12 Lisibilite :87
These faces are like apparitions.
A kind of dream.
0005) 00:03:48:16 00:03:53:15 Duree :04:24 Lisibilite :79
A presence, an absence...
vibrating in a particular way.
0006) 00:03:53:19 00:03:55:14 Duree :01:20 Lisibilite :28
It is a kind of shuddering.
0007) 00:03:55:18 00:03:57:21 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
Each one in their own black square,
0008) 00:03:58:08 00:04:01:05 Duree :02:22 Lisibilite :46
it feels as if they were
a little bit stageing themselves.
0009) 00:04:04:23 00:04:08:08 Duree :03:10 Lisibilite :54
You see, that's how painting starts,
0010) 00:04:09:01 00:04:10:09 Duree :01:08 Lisibilite :21
with a tearing.
0011) 00:05:28:13 00:05:30:20 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
It's a cloud in the beginning.
0012) 00:05:31:03 00:05:33:17 Duree :02:14 Lisibilite :40
Just a cloud... moving.
0013) 00:05:37:22 00:05:39:21 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
Shapes in motion.
0014) 00:06:17:16 00:06:21:24 Duree :04:08 Lisibilite :69
Say I'm looking for landmarks,
0015) 00:06:22:03 00:06:24:24 Duree :02:21 Lisibilite :45
and at first I can't see any.
0016) 00:06:29:01 00:06:32:01 Duree :03:00 Lisibilite :48
That's why I talk about clouds.
0017) 00:06:41:02 00:06:43:19 Duree :02:17 Lisibilite :42
For me, the black surface, there,
0018) 00:06:45:06 00:06:49:14 Duree :04:08 Lisibilite :69
symbolizes an infinite space.
0019) 00:07:19:15 00:07:24:17 Duree :05:02 Lisibilite :81
I find that colours go straight
into the subconscious.
0020) 00:07:24:23 00:07:29:00 Duree :04:02 Lisibilite :65
It's like sound.
You can't close your ears.
0021) 00:07:29:20 00:07:32:04 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
And you can't not see the colours.
0022) 00:07:37:23 00:07:39:17 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
You see, this black colour
0023) 00:07:40:22 00:07:43:00 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
is an absorbing matter.
0024) 00:07:43:10 00:07:45:10 Duree :02:00 Lisibilite :32
It absorbs everything.
0025) 00:07:45:23 00:07:47:16 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
The only thing that I leave,
0026) 00:07:47:20 00:07:52:08 Duree :04:13 Lisibilite :72
or that this blackness casts
0027) 00:07:53:00 00:07:55:05 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
is this face,
0028) 00:07:56:06 00:08:00:00 Duree :03:19 Lisibilite :60
which expresses everyone's inner life.
0029) 00:08:02:20 00:08:04:13 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
Which is the soul.
0030) 00:08:21:02 00:08:25:07 Duree :04:05 Lisibilite :67
Maybe it started with an
important change in my life.
0031) 00:08:25:14 00:08:27:22 Duree :02:08 Lisibilite :37
A lost friendship.
0032) 00:08:28:01 00:08:31:14 Duree :03:13 Lisibilite :56
Since, I've wondered a lot about
the importance of friendship,
0033) 00:08:31:18 00:08:33:24 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
and who could still be called
friends of mine.
0034) 00:08:34:03 00:08:38:11 Duree :04:08 Lisibilite :69
Well, I took the first around me,
who were there at that time.
0035) 00:08:38:16 00:08:40:11 Duree :01:20 Lisibilite :28
I was short of time,
0036) 00:08:41:11 00:08:43:11 Duree :02:00 Lisibilite :32
so I had to work at night.
0037) 00:08:43:20 00:08:48:21 Duree :05:01 Lisibilite :80
Thus I chose black as background,
0038) 00:08:49:21 00:08:52:17 Duree :02:21 Lisibilite :45
with the face looming out
0039) 00:08:52:22 00:08:54:19 Duree :01:22 Lisibilite :30
like a ghost,
0040) 00:08:55:00 00:09:00:16 Duree :05:16 Lisibilite :90
like a fantasy, a desire.
0041) 00:09:02:20 00:09:06:05 Duree :03:10 Lisibilite :54
I painted a few, but knew quite soon
0042) 00:09:06:09 00:09:09:00 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
that I had to make a lot more
0043) 00:09:09:13 00:09:11:06 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
and also that these pictures
0044) 00:09:13:17 00:09:16:05 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
were searching for each other.
0045) 00:09:17:05 00:09:19:13 Duree :02:08 Lisibilite :37
They were dispersing themselves.
0046) 00:09:19:17 00:09:22:12 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
At the same time they attracted
and repelled each other,
0047) 00:09:22:16 00:09:27:23 Duree :05:07 Lisibilite :84
It was an interactive game
between the paintings.
0048) 00:09:30:08 00:09:32:12 Duree :02:04 Lisibilite :34
So I went on,
0049) 00:09:32:21 00:09:36:04 Duree :03:08 Lisibilite :53
ignoring until where or when,
0050) 00:09:36:08 00:09:40:07 Duree :03:24 Lisibilite :63
and so a lot of time went by,
0051) 00:09:40:15 00:09:43:05 Duree :02:15 Lisibilite :41
Much changed inside myself,
0052) 00:09:44:10 00:09:46:08 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
and on the canvas, too.
0053) 00:09:46:12 00:09:48:13 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
There is quite a difference
0054) 00:09:48:18 00:09:51:06 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
between the beginning and the end.
0055) 00:09:57:06 00:09:58:06 Duree :01:00 Lisibilite :16
I wanted
0056) 00:09:58:10 00:09:59:21 Duree :01:11 Lisibilite :23
to focus on the face only
0057) 00:10:00:00 00:10:04:07 Duree :04:07 Lisibilite :68
because it seemed to be
the most important thing then.
0058) 00:10:05:09 00:10:08:15 Duree :03:06 Lisibilite :51
The look, the skin of the other...
0059) 00:10:09:17 00:10:11:15 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
I found that the face
0060) 00:10:13:03 00:10:16:14 Duree :03:11 Lisibilite :55
was indeed the most naked
part of ourselves.
0061) 00:12:19:20 00:12:20:20 Duree :01:00 Lisibilite :16
I started
0062) 00:12:21:02 00:12:23:11 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
with close people,
0063) 00:12:23:21 00:12:26:14 Duree :02:18 Lisibilite :43
friends or aquaintances,
0064) 00:12:30:04 00:12:33:15 Duree :03:11 Lisibilite :55
And they became almost unknown,
0065) 00:12:33:21 00:12:35:17 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
by painting them.
0066) 00:12:40:09 00:12:43:17 Duree :03:08 Lisibilite :53
It is harder to paint people you like,
0067) 00:12:43:23 00:12:47:01 Duree :03:03 Lisibilite :49
because you have already created
a picture of them,
0068) 00:12:48:01 00:12:50:19 Duree :02:18 Lisibilite :43
and you have
0069) 00:12:51:01 00:12:52:16 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
to get over
0070) 00:12:53:20 00:12:55:05 Duree :01:10 Lisibilite :22
this illusion,
0071) 00:12:55:10 00:12:59:05 Duree :03:20 Lisibilite :60
this image from your memory.
0072) 00:13:00:24 00:13:05:08 Duree :04:09 Lisibilite :69
It's obvious.
It's like doing violence to the other,
0073) 00:13:06:17 00:13:16:12 Duree :09:20 Lisibilite :156
because I want to forget,
or get rid of everything I knew.
0074) 00:13:18:11 00:13:24:04 Duree :05:18 Lisibilite :91
I want to discover people
not as I know them, but as they are,
0075) 00:13:24:09 00:13:30:03 Duree :05:19 Lisibilite :92
as they are suddenly,
in a somehow constrained context.
0076) 00:13:31:02 00:13:33:01 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
When one is posing,
0077) 00:13:34:10 00:13:37:24 Duree :03:14 Lisibilite :56
I feel as if the essence was coming out,
0078) 00:13:39:18 00:13:42:15 Duree :02:22 Lisibilite :46
well, the person who is inside,
0079) 00:13:44:22 00:13:46:14 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
beneath the mask.
0080) 00:13:48:00 00:13:51:05 Duree :03:05 Lisibilite :51
Even if I'm only painting the mask,
the mask falls.
0081) 00:14:27:19 00:14:30:18 Duree :02:24 Lisibilite :47
He wasn't looking at me.
He was looking beyond myself.
0082) 00:14:30:22 00:14:32:18 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
I don't know how to explain.
0083) 00:14:32:22 00:14:36:05 Duree :03:08 Lisibilite :53
He wasn't staring into my eyes,
he was looking at my whole being.
0084) 00:14:36:14 00:14:39:14 Duree :03:00 Lisibilite :48
Sometimes he would linger
on a cheekbone, on the entire face,
0085) 00:14:39:18 00:14:42:03 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
on something global,
or on minute details, I don't know,
0086) 00:14:42:07 00:14:43:22 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
And it made me ill-at-ease
0087) 00:14:44:01 00:14:46:17 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
to see all that I try
to show to the outer world.
0088) 00:14:46:21 00:14:51:13 Duree :04:17 Lisibilite :74
Finally, what this portrait really
shows is the reverse of the medal.
0089) 00:14:51:17 00:14:53:06 Duree :01:14 Lisibilite :24
For instance there is something
0090) 00:14:53:20 00:14:58:10 Duree :04:15 Lisibilite :73
very contemplative, almost sad,
0091) 00:14:59:02 00:15:03:21 Duree :04:19 Lisibilite :76
or nostalgic. I see something
very nostalgic in that face.
0092) 00:15:06:21 00:15:09:07 Duree :02:11 Lisibilite :39
Something a little endless, infinite,
0093) 00:15:09:12 00:15:11:08 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
I don't know... something...
0094) 00:15:14:08 00:15:19:10 Duree :05:02 Lisibilite :81
I think it is a dimension which
I have in me, well, yes,
0095) 00:15:19:18 00:15:22:23 Duree :03:05 Lisibilite :51
I feel it very strongly,
and it troubles me a little
0096) 00:15:23:07 00:15:28:22 Duree :05:15 Lisibilite :89
to see that... after such a short
time, this is what appears there.
0097) 00:15:32:03 00:15:35:01 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
When posing, I felt that
there was a...
0098) 00:15:35:15 00:15:38:24 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
Knowing Daniel, I could figure out
0099) 00:15:40:07 00:15:44:09 Duree :04:02 Lisibilite :65
that he wasn't going to paint me
0100) 00:15:45:03 00:15:46:11 Duree :01:08 Lisibilite :21
in a superficial manner,
0101) 00:15:46:15 00:15:50:03 Duree :03:13 Lisibilite :56
that he would look for what was inside.
0102) 00:15:50:15 00:15:54:08 Duree :03:18 Lisibilite :59
So it wouldn't be a portrait
where I would recognize myself.
0103) 00:15:54:13 00:15:56:23 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
And it's true,
I didn't recognize myself at first.
0104) 00:15:57:02 00:15:59:15 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
I found it difficult
to recognize myself,
0105) 00:15:59:19 00:16:02:13 Duree :02:19 Lisibilite :44
for when I was posing,
0106) 00:16:02:17 00:16:07:01 Duree :04:09 Lisibilite :69
we talked a lot,
and we laughed quite much indeed.
0107) 00:16:07:05 00:16:08:17 Duree :01:12 Lisibilite :23
And what I see eventually
0108) 00:16:08:22 00:16:11:03 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
is that the portrait
is very serious, very hard.
0109) 00:16:11:07 00:16:15:12 Duree :04:05 Lisibilite :67
That was surprising.
I hadn't imagined this at all.
0110) 00:16:16:00 00:16:19:16 Duree :03:16 Lisibilite :58
Inevitably, I'm interested
0111) 00:16:19:24 00:16:21:11 Duree :01:12 Lisibilite :23
in the surface, too.
0112) 00:16:21:17 00:16:26:00 Duree :04:08 Lisibilite :69
I wonder what people think about me
0113) 00:16:26:05 00:16:29:02 Duree :02:22 Lisibilite :46
when they don't know me
and see only the portrait.
0114) 00:16:30:14 00:16:32:23 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
As I was posing,
0115) 00:16:33:17 00:16:37:17 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
I wondered too
0116) 00:16:38:12 00:16:41:02 Duree :02:15 Lisibilite :41
about my own disappearance.
0117) 00:16:42:07 00:16:47:00 Duree :04:18 Lisibilite :75
I thought: well, this portrait
0118) 00:16:49:09 00:16:53:08 Duree :03:24 Lisibilite :63
will live longer than me.
0119) 00:16:53:24 00:16:55:04 Duree :01:05 Lisibilite :19
Me?
0120) 00:16:55:21 00:16:59:24 Duree :04:03 Lisibilite :65
As far as I'm concerned,
I don't recognize myself at all.
0121) 00:17:00:03 00:17:02:13 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
Indeed I picture myself, too,
0122) 00:17:02:19 00:17:05:07 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
so there may be things I don't see.
0123) 00:17:05:17 00:17:08:06 Duree :02:14 Lisibilite :40
Because at that moment,
I wasn't really myself,
0124) 00:17:08:11 00:17:11:16 Duree :03:05 Lisibilite :51
as I was undergoing something.
0125) 00:17:12:06 00:17:14:19 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
We are transformed
a little by other people,
0126) 00:17:15:22 00:17:19:16 Duree :03:19 Lisibilite :60
so that I was myself and
Daniel Frank too, in some way,
0127) 00:17:19:20 00:17:24:22 Duree :05:02 Lisibilite :81
because he was very close.
So I was an image of him as well.
0128) 00:17:27:05 00:17:30:06 Duree :03:01 Lisibilite :48
For me, the fact
that it had to be in the dark
0129) 00:17:31:05 00:17:33:19 Duree :02:14 Lisibilite :40
was quite difficult.
0130) 00:17:37:09 00:17:41:03 Duree :03:19 Lisibilite :60
As I'm rather a day creature,
0131) 00:17:42:22 00:17:44:19 Duree :01:22 Lisibilite :30
it sets me in an unfamiliar context.
0132) 00:17:44:23 00:17:47:17 Duree :02:19 Lisibilite :44
As if I went to Hell,
0133) 00:17:47:21 00:17:51:06 Duree :03:10 Lisibilite :54
or to the North Pole,
when there's no sun.
0134) 00:18:07:15 00:18:08:23 Duree :01:08 Lisibilite :21
It's like guns, in a way,
0135) 00:18:09:13 00:18:11:23 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
because you're facing your own portrait.
0136) 00:18:12:02 00:18:16:14 Duree :04:12 Lisibilite :71
Then what do you see?
Purple skin, all that's repressed,
0137) 00:18:17:15 00:18:21:16 Duree :04:01 Lisibilite :64
all that you can't bear
in yourself, there, it's...
0138) 00:18:22:04 00:18:30:16 Duree :08:12 Lisibilite :135
The energies, what happens inside
a photograph can be neutralized,
0139) 00:18:33:11 00:18:35:16 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
but you can't neutralize a portrait.
0140) 00:18:38:04 00:18:40:04 Duree :02:00 Lisibilite :32
Sometimes I don't recognize anything.
0141) 00:18:40:23 00:18:43:15 Duree :02:17 Lisibilite :42
It's like a jigsaw
which isn't assembled.
0142) 00:18:43:20 00:18:45:19 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
I don't see who it may be,
0143) 00:18:45:23 00:18:48:01 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
and when I find out, I'm amazed
0144) 00:18:48:08 00:18:52:05 Duree :03:22 Lisibilite :62
because it seems as if
he had turned on the right switch
0145) 00:18:52:11 00:18:56:11 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
and drawn out... I think our face
is extremely mobile.
0146) 00:18:56:15 00:18:58:18 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
One doesn't really see it,
yet it is.
0147) 00:18:58:22 00:19:00:03 Duree :01:06 Lisibilite :19
As if he had managed
0148) 00:19:00:09 00:19:04:09 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
to fix a moment that nobody really sees.
0149) 00:19:04:13 00:19:06:21 Duree :02:08 Lisibilite :37
As if he had switched
on the right "pause" switch,
0150) 00:19:07:00 00:19:09:16 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
or five or six "pause" switches,
0151) 00:19:10:02 00:19:14:01 Duree :03:24 Lisibilite :63
to build the portrait, the face.
0152) 00:22:19:05 00:22:20:07 Duree :01:02 Lisibilite :17
One of the hardest
0153) 00:22:20:22 00:22:25:03 Duree :04:06 Lisibilite :67
and at the same time
happiest portrait to make
0154) 00:22:25:07 00:22:27:05 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
was that of my father.
0155) 00:22:27:09 00:22:29:11 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
Because it's the image, the face
0156) 00:22:32:08 00:22:34:14 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
I've known from the longest time
0157) 00:22:37:15 00:22:39:15 Duree :02:00 Lisibilite :32
and which I have certainely idealized.
0158) 00:22:41:02 00:22:42:06 Duree :01:04 Lisibilite :18
And also, sometimes,
0159) 00:22:42:17 00:22:44:11 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
he would look at me
0160) 00:22:44:15 00:22:46:07 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
with such amazement.
0161) 00:22:46:14 00:22:49:09 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
Who's painting me right now?
My son, or I don't know...
0162) 00:22:54:03 00:22:57:24 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
Because suddenly,
you're entering in life's mystery
0163) 00:22:59:08 00:23:00:22 Duree :01:14 Lisibilite :24
Who is the other?
0164) 00:23:02:19 00:23:07:05 Duree :04:11 Lisibilite :71
You see, who are you?
What is he/she made of?
0165) 00:23:07:10 00:23:08:23 Duree :01:13 Lisibilite :24
What is his/her history?
0166) 00:23:12:21 00:23:17:00 Duree :04:04 Lisibilite :66
Now I've rediscovered him as a friend.
0167) 00:23:17:11 00:23:19:01 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
No longer as a father.
0168) 00:23:19:10 00:23:22:06 Duree :02:21 Lisibilite :45
These are beautiful moments.
0169) 00:23:26:13 00:23:27:19 Duree :01:06 Lisibilite :19
We didn't speak much,
0170) 00:23:27:24 00:23:33:24 Duree :06:00 Lisibilite :96
but we looked at each other and
that's already quite an approach.
0171) 00:24:45:12 00:24:46:21 Duree :01:09 Lisibilite :21
The first day I arrived,
0172) 00:24:47:00 00:24:50:11 Duree :03:11 Lisibilite :55
I said to myself, in this armchair:
"What am I doing here?"
0173) 00:24:50:16 00:24:53:11 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
Because it's difficult to be there
0174) 00:24:54:14 00:24:57:14 Duree :03:00 Lisibilite :48
unable to move,
0175) 00:24:57:23 00:24:59:24 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
or to do anything,
0176) 00:25:00:03 00:25:03:15 Duree :03:12 Lisibilite :55
and to be under Daniel's gaze,
0177) 00:25:03:20 00:25:06:14 Duree :02:19 Lisibilite :44
he is very close, not behind a camera,
0178) 00:25:06:18 00:25:08:20 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
or what else...
0179) 00:25:09:05 00:25:11:11 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
And it's going to last quite long,
0180) 00:25:12:16 00:25:14:08 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
three hours or maybe more...
0181) 00:25:27:21 00:25:31:08 Duree :03:12 Lisibilite :55
He makes me confortable in the
armchair, then settles himself,
0182) 00:25:31:20 00:25:35:04 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
and at the first brushstroke,
0183) 00:25:35:08 00:25:37:17 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
I thought: I'm going to run away!
0184) 00:25:40:06 00:25:43:02 Duree :02:21 Lisibilite :45
Yes because I found his eyes
0185) 00:25:43:18 00:25:46:05 Duree :02:12 Lisibilite :39
so observing, searching,
0186) 00:25:46:17 00:25:48:19 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
modelling already...
0187) 00:25:50:10 00:25:52:21 Duree :02:11 Lisibilite :39
Well, there was this unknown gaze.
0188) 00:25:53:01 00:25:55:20 Duree :02:19 Lisibilite :44
He searches straight away.
0189) 00:25:58:15 00:26:00:18 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
It felt as if I was running away
0190) 00:26:00:22 00:26:02:18 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
but inside myself,
0191) 00:26:03:01 00:26:05:08 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
and became a very tiny thing,
0192) 00:26:05:17 00:26:07:11 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
not bigger than a nut,
0193) 00:26:08:08 00:26:10:22 Duree :02:14 Lisibilite :40
that went hiding behind a rib.
0194) 00:26:13:06 00:26:15:04 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
And after a while,
0195) 00:26:15:12 00:26:18:16 Duree :03:04 Lisibilite :50
I started to swell, to get bigger,
0196) 00:26:18:24 00:26:21:22 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
until I felt I was back in the armchair again.
0197) 00:26:22:01 00:26:23:23 Duree :01:22 Lisibilite :30
Oddly enough, he suddenly said:
0198) 00:26:24:05 00:26:26:08 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
- well, it's much better now,
0199) 00:26:27:01 00:26:30:06 Duree :03:05 Lisibilite :51
because I couldn't... "catch" you,
0200) 00:26:30:11 00:26:32:24 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
I can't remember his exact word.
0201) 00:26:33:05 00:26:35:23 Duree :02:18 Lisibilite :43
Maybe that's what's left.
0202) 00:26:37:11 00:26:40:10 Duree :02:24 Lisibilite :47
The strongest part of this experience.
0203) 00:26:41:15 00:26:45:07 Duree :03:17 Lisibilite :58
Because it shows a strange link
0204) 00:26:46:12 00:26:48:15 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
between inside and outside.
0205) 00:26:50:22 00:26:52:15 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
Suddenly there's the painter,
0206) 00:26:53:13 00:26:57:04 Duree :03:16 Lisibilite :58
who's observing a person,
0207) 00:26:57:09 00:27:02:04 Duree :04:20 Lisibilite :76
who's painting this person
and painting an outer envelope,
0208) 00:27:02:22 00:27:06:13 Duree :03:16 Lisibilite :58
while at the same time you 're inside.
0209) 00:27:09:00 00:27:10:15 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
That's strange.
0210) 00:28:33:14 00:28:35:07 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
I looked at him from time to time,
0211) 00:28:35:11 00:28:36:17 Duree :01:06 Lisibilite :19
because it puzzled me,
0212) 00:28:36:21 00:28:38:16 Duree :01:20 Lisibilite :28
that kind of swarming,
0213) 00:28:38:20 00:28:42:09 Duree :03:14 Lisibilite :56
even the sweat on his face...
0214) 00:28:42:23 00:28:44:01 Duree :01:03 Lisibilite :17
I was surprised.
0215) 00:28:44:10 00:28:48:14 Duree :04:04 Lisibilite :66
I was fascinated by the gasping
effect of Daniel's painting.
0216) 00:28:50:10 00:28:53:14 Duree :03:04 Lisibilite :50
I was no longer Florence,
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|
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0217) 00:28:54:06 00:28:56:07 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
I became a surface, a thing
0218) 00:28:56:22 00:29:00:06 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
assaulted by the painter in a way.
0219) 00:29:01:18 00:29:04:17 Duree :02:24 Lisibilite :47
My identity was cancelled out, completely.
0220) 00:29:04:21 00:29:07:12 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
I felt as if I was something
0221) 00:29:07:23 00:29:10:03 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
that the painter wanted
0222) 00:29:11:12 00:29:14:11 Duree :02:24 Lisibilite :47
to capture.
0223) 00:29:15:23 00:29:19:02 Duree :03:04 Lisibilite :50
I felt caught in a crazy dance.
0224) 00:29:20:14 00:29:22:05 Duree :01:16 Lisibilite :26
Much as he seemed sometimes
0225) 00:29:22:09 00:29:24:16 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
to be in a kind of trance.
0226) 00:29:24:20 00:29:26:22 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
Sometimes he'd relax a little,
0227) 00:29:27:01 00:29:29:02 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
and we could talk together again.
0228) 00:29:29:06 00:29:31:16 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
There I could recapture my identity,
0229) 00:29:32:00 00:29:34:02 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
and go and see
0230) 00:29:34:06 00:29:36:15 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
what was happening on the canvas.
0231) 00:30:56:04 00:30:59:06 Duree :03:02 Lisibilite :49
It's quite odd to have to sit
for two hours doing nothing,
0232) 00:30:59:12 00:31:04:08 Duree :04:21 Lisibilite :77
to have to surrender
to someone's brushes.
0233) 00:31:04:22 00:31:06:17 Duree :01:20 Lisibilite :28
So there were times
0234) 00:31:08:00 00:31:11:21 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
where I was really present,
times where I'd be daydreaming,
0235) 00:31:12:00 00:31:15:03 Duree :03:03 Lisibilite :49
times where I was a bit excited
about what was happening to me,
0236) 00:31:15:07 00:31:18:18 Duree :03:11 Lisibilite :55
times I'd get suddenly bored,
and say to myself: I want to leave.
0237) 00:31:18:22 00:31:21:04 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
Sometimes it disturbed me, too.
0238) 00:31:22:09 00:31:25:24 Duree :03:15 Lisibilite :57
Yet all this happened
in a kind of surprising calm.
0239) 00:31:26:10 00:31:28:04 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
I had a great feeling of freedom,
0240) 00:31:28:09 00:31:29:19 Duree :01:10 Lisibilite :22
of freedom and solitude.
0241) 00:31:29:23 00:31:33:07 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
Because I had no need to pretend,
for he really transcribed me
0242) 00:31:33:11 00:31:36:13 Duree :03:02 Lisibilite :49
as he felt
I was on the spur of the moment.
0243) 00:31:38:18 00:31:42:14 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
I had no artifices, none.
0244) 00:31:42:18 00:31:46:14 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
Neither in speach, nor in behaviour.
0245) 00:31:49:11 00:31:50:15 Duree :01:04 Lisibilite :18
Maybe, at one point,
0246) 00:31:50:19 00:31:54:09 Duree :03:15 Lisibilite :57
you wonder if something
previously unseen will appear.
0247) 00:31:55:12 00:31:56:24 Duree :01:12 Lisibilite :23
Like the Devil's horns,
0248) 00:31:58:03 00:32:02:05 Duree :04:02 Lisibilite :65
or a scary or sad face,
0249) 00:32:02:12 00:32:04:11 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
something which escapes us,
0250) 00:32:04:15 00:32:08:00 Duree :03:10 Lisibilite :54
something that he would
have caught very quickly.
0251) 00:32:08:18 00:32:12:19 Duree :04:01 Lisibilite :64
Yes maybe you think
about that at one point.
0252) 00:32:22:08 00:32:24:13 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
The most difficult for me
0253) 00:32:26:07 00:32:27:24 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
was to accept to be a model.
0254) 00:32:28:03 00:32:30:20 Duree :02:17 Lisibilite :42
From the moment I stepped in,
0255) 00:32:32:03 00:32:36:01 Duree :03:23 Lisibilite :62
I had overcome all my "fears"
0256) 00:32:37:02 00:32:39:07 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
about what he would do with it.
0257) 00:32:39:23 00:32:43:19 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
To me, Daniel was the one who had
0258) 00:32:43:23 00:32:46:10 Duree :02:12 Lisibilite :39
the most tensions and questions,
0259) 00:32:46:14 00:32:49:23 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
confronted with what he had to do.
0260) 00:32:50:15 00:32:52:02 Duree :01:12 Lisibilite :23
It's true, I was present,
0261) 00:32:52:06 00:32:55:18 Duree :03:12 Lisibilite :55
yet at the same time absent.
0262) 00:32:56:05 00:33:00:12 Duree :04:07 Lisibilite :68
I was his thing, that's how I faced it.
0263) 00:33:01:02 00:33:02:19 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
Maybe it allowed me...
0264) 00:33:08:04 00:33:10:18 Duree :02:14 Lisibilite :40
That's the official version.
One is just a presence.
0265) 00:33:10:23 00:33:13:21 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
But I believe one is quite active.
0266) 00:33:15:23 00:33:17:21 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
When this portrait was made,
0267) 00:33:18:19 00:33:21:04 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
it lasted quite a while, with moments
0268) 00:33:21:08 00:33:23:14 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
where I'd think about things,
0269) 00:33:23:20 00:33:25:13 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
following my own thoughts,
0270) 00:33:26:05 00:33:29:24 Duree :03:19 Lisibilite :60
and there were things I'd think
about only when I was alone.
0271) 00:33:30:09 00:33:33:18 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
And then, I'd think about these.
Not aloud though.
0272) 00:33:33:22 00:33:36:01 Duree :02:04 Lisibilite :34
Yet we were two in the room.
0273) 00:33:36:05 00:33:39:02 Duree :02:22 Lisibilite :46
I was almost embarrassed
to have these thoughts,
0274) 00:33:39:06 00:33:42:21 Duree :03:15 Lisibilite :57
because they're really intimate,
yet to have these kind of thoughts
0275) 00:33:43:00 00:33:44:19 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
when there's someone
in the same space...
0276) 00:33:44:23 00:33:47:05 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
In these moments,
0277) 00:33:47:17 00:33:51:05 Duree :03:13 Lisibilite :56
I must have thrown
irritated glances at Daniel
0278) 00:33:51:13 00:33:53:11 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
just because he was there.
0279) 00:33:53:22 00:33:57:15 Duree :03:18 Lisibilite :59
I really had the impression that
he was making my portrait
0280) 00:33:57:19 00:33:59:20 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
from inside and from outside.
0281) 00:34:11:06 00:34:13:22 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
I find that Daniel Frank is wicked.
0282) 00:34:14:07 00:34:18:17 Duree :04:10 Lisibilite :70
Because proposing to make a portrait
0283) 00:34:18:21 00:34:21:05 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
sounds very flattering.
0284) 00:34:21:09 00:34:24:06 Duree :02:22 Lisibilite :46
In fact all this is a trick.
0285) 00:34:24:10 00:34:26:09 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
I'm conscient
0286) 00:34:26:13 00:34:30:21 Duree :04:08 Lisibilite :69
of appearances, which imprison a little.
0287) 00:34:31:22 00:34:34:04 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
At first, it's painful.
0288) 00:34:34:14 00:34:38:16 Duree :04:02 Lisibilite :65
Then you give up the control.
0289) 00:34:38:20 00:34:40:16 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
At a point it becomes too exhausting,
0290) 00:34:40:21 00:34:43:11 Duree :02:15 Lisibilite :41
you can no longer control your image.
0291) 00:34:44:07 00:34:45:21 Duree :01:14 Lisibilite :24
and the furtive moments,
0292) 00:34:46:00 00:34:48:07 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
the small illuminations
0293) 00:34:48:11 00:34:50:23 Duree :02:12 Lisibilite :39
when you realize he's catching you
0294) 00:34:51:02 00:34:53:01 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
in one of these relaxed moments.
0295) 00:34:53:05 00:34:54:16 Duree :01:11 Lisibilite :23
Well, that's unbearable.
0296) 00:34:55:10 00:34:57:14 Duree :02:04 Lisibilite :34
And the moment you look at the picture
0297) 00:34:59:18 00:35:02:09 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
and see the whole truth...
0298) 00:35:03:11 00:35:06:15 Duree :03:04 Lisibilite :50
- In fact, I'm very patient
0299) 00:35:06:19 00:35:08:03 Duree :01:09 Lisibilite :21
when I paint.
0300) 00:35:08:08 00:35:13:00 Duree :04:17 Lisibilite :74
There are gestures
which are like fleeting gestures,
0301) 00:35:15:01 00:35:20:05 Duree :05:04 Lisibilite :82
well, I feel as if I was somehow
caressing someone's skin,
0302) 00:35:20:09 00:35:24:04 Duree :03:20 Lisibilite :60
And suddenly, a look
0303) 00:35:24:08 00:35:27:20 Duree :03:12 Lisibilite :55
or a feeling appears,
evoked by the person,
0304) 00:35:28:07 00:35:29:21 Duree :01:14 Lisibilite :24
and this is
0305) 00:35:30:00 00:35:33:12 Duree :03:12 Lisibilite :55
what I would like to capture.
0306) 00:35:36:02 00:35:39:06 Duree :03:04 Lisibilite :50
This fragment of intimate life.
0307) 00:35:43:11 00:35:46:09 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
Maybe you can compare this with a bird
0308) 00:35:48:07 00:35:49:20 Duree :01:13 Lisibilite :24
who finally
0309) 00:35:50:11 00:35:53:13 Duree :03:02 Lisibilite :49
lets itself fall to catch its prey.
0310) 00:36:29:23 00:36:32:08 Duree :02:10 Lisibilite :38
First I used to talk a lot with him.
0311) 00:36:32:18 00:36:34:14 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
Then he said: Be quiet!
0312) 00:36:37:07 00:36:40:17 Duree :03:10 Lisibilite :54
The following sessions,
0313) 00:36:40:23 00:36:42:17 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
I brought some music.
0314) 00:36:42:21 00:36:44:06 Duree :01:10 Lisibilite :22
Bringing my own music
0315) 00:36:45:00 00:36:47:12 Duree :02:12 Lisibilite :39
was as if I'd brought my own snare,
0316) 00:36:47:23 00:36:51:05 Duree :03:07 Lisibilite :52
my trap for Daniel.
0317) 00:36:52:05 00:36:54:16 Duree :02:11 Lisibilite :39
No longer did I feel only
0318) 00:36:55:07 00:36:58:20 Duree :03:13 Lisibilite :56
like the painter's hostage,
0319) 00:36:59:12 00:37:01:05 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
but I felt that he was a hostage
0320) 00:37:02:11 00:37:03:22 Duree :01:11 Lisibilite :23
of my music,
0321) 00:37:04:04 00:37:06:15 Duree :02:11 Lisibilite :39
not mine as a creator,
0322) 00:37:07:07 00:37:09:22 Duree :02:15 Lisibilite :41
but the music I brought...
0323) 00:37:10:24 00:37:14:24 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
That is... well... they're traps.
I like the notion of trap.
0324) 00:37:35:13 00:37:41:10 Duree :05:22 Lisibilite :94
Indeed, I feel that the portrait
0325) 00:37:41:14 00:37:43:23 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
would have become quite different
0326) 00:37:44:07 00:37:46:20 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
if he hadn't put on that music,
0327) 00:37:46:24 00:37:48:13 Duree :01:14 Lisibilite :24
his music.
0328) 00:37:50:01 00:37:53:13 Duree :03:12 Lisibilite :55
It reveals something
of the person, too.
0329) 00:38:02:12 00:38:07:04 Duree :04:17 Lisibilite :74
As I posed, I noticed I had much
influence on Daniel's painting.
0330) 00:38:07:12 00:38:10:13 Duree :03:01 Lisibilite :48
His whole work, his painting,
0331) 00:38:11:08 00:38:14:10 Duree :03:02 Lisibilite :49
I was part of its making, too.
0332) 00:38:17:18 00:38:20:24 Duree :03:06 Lisibilite :51
I found it very brave to do that,
0333) 00:38:22:07 00:38:25:00 Duree :02:18 Lisibilite :43
as the person is very close indeed
0334) 00:38:25:22 00:38:29:15 Duree :03:18 Lisibilite :59
I think, or rather I know,
for he told me,
0335) 00:38:29:19 00:38:31:24 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
that's what he looked for
0336) 00:38:32:14 00:38:34:22 Duree :02:08 Lisibilite :37
He wanted to write down on the canvas
0337) 00:38:35:01 00:38:37:01 Duree :02:00 Lisibilite :32
the energy of the people,
0338) 00:38:37:05 00:38:41:24 Duree :04:19 Lisibilite :76
the presence he had captured.
0339) 00:38:42:19 00:38:46:12 Duree :03:18 Lisibilite :59
This is the mystery he is seeking.
0340) 00:39:33:18 00:39:36:20 Duree :03:02 Lisibilite :49
We talked about the relation of desire
0341) 00:39:36:24 00:39:38:17 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
between model and painter.
0342) 00:39:40:11 00:39:44:02 Duree :03:16 Lisibilite :58
I wondered. I thought it was quite odd
0343) 00:39:44:16 00:39:45:24 Duree :01:08 Lisibilite :21
to be posing there...
0344) 00:39:49:12 00:39:53:12 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
There was a silence, a calmness.
0345) 00:39:53:17 00:39:57:17 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
Would it suggest, or rouse desire?
0346) 00:40:32:17 00:40:33:19 Duree :01:02 Lisibilite :17
The question is:
0347) 00:40:34:15 00:40:36:13 Duree :01:23 Lisibilite :30
why did he want
0348) 00:40:37:08 00:40:39:04 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
to put people in the dark?
0349) 00:40:40:05 00:40:41:16 Duree :01:11 Lisibilite :23
Why?
0350) 00:40:45:06 00:40:46:18 Duree :01:12 Lisibilite :23
To me, it's...
0351) 00:40:48:20 00:40:50:23 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
it's a desire to choke them.
0352) 00:40:58:04 00:40:59:15 Duree :01:11 Lisibilite :23
It takes their life away.
0353) 00:41:03:19 00:41:05:09 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
They are killed, dead.
0354) 00:41:05:13 00:41:07:10 Duree :01:22 Lisibilite :30
But on the other side, they are open,
0355) 00:41:07:15 00:41:09:18 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
turning into wonderful characters
0356) 00:41:09:22 00:41:11:10 Duree :01:13 Lisibilite :24
for a play.
0357) 00:41:12:12 00:41:15:08 Duree :02:21 Lisibilite :45
They're masks, or puppets.
0358) 00:41:16:06 00:41:19:03 Duree :02:22 Lisibilite :46
So first you have to
nail them to the wall,
0359) 00:41:20:11 00:41:22:17 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
because if they are too independent,
0360) 00:41:22:21 00:41:23:23 Duree :01:02 Lisibilite :17
if they breathe,
0361) 00:41:24:15 00:41:26:22 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
they won't fit in the drama,
and at the same time,
0362) 00:41:27:01 00:41:30:23 Duree :03:22 Lisibilite :62
a living creature cannot be
manipulated, cannot be used.
0363) 00:41:31:06 00:41:34:05 Duree :02:24 Lisibilite :47
A living creature is not practical.
0364) 00:41:43:24 00:41:46:01 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
There is something reminding
of Daniel, undoubtedly.
0365) 00:41:46:06 00:41:49:08 Duree :03:02 Lisibilite :49
It must have escaped his attention
and, well, I hope it did,
0366) 00:41:49:15 00:41:51:18 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
because it would be more interesting
0367) 00:41:52:14 00:41:55:09 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
if he'd done something different
from mere observation.
0368) 00:41:55:13 00:41:57:22 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
And in what might have
escaped his glance,
0369) 00:41:58:07 00:41:59:15 Duree :01:08 Lisibilite :21
I can feel a kind of
0370) 00:42:03:24 00:42:05:08 Duree :01:09 Lisibilite :21
a kind of sadness,
0371) 00:42:05:12 00:42:08:17 Duree :03:05 Lisibilite :51
a kind of dreaming,
0372) 00:42:10:15 00:42:12:05 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
a kind of resigned
0373) 00:42:12:09 00:42:15:08 Duree :02:24 Lisibilite :47
and yet positive acceptance of things.
0374) 00:42:16:02 00:42:20:11 Duree :04:09 Lisibilite :69
I believe Daniel didn't wish
to make something great, ambitious,
0375) 00:42:20:15 00:42:23:19 Duree :03:04 Lisibilite :50
or metaphysical, but he wanted
to follow an inner process,
0376) 00:42:24:01 00:42:27:22 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
which is actually a metaphysical
process in an involvement,
0377) 00:42:28:01 00:42:29:19 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
that's what I find very interesting,
0378) 00:42:29:23 00:42:32:21 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
the fact that finally he had
something deep inside him,
0379) 00:42:33:00 00:42:35:01 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
which he couldn't explain,
and the result is this.
0380) 00:42:35:18 00:42:39:11 Duree :03:18 Lisibilite :59
The only thing Daniel puts up
in front of the world is his work.
0381) 00:42:41:04 00:42:42:07 Duree :01:03 Lisibilite :17
Like an answer,
0382) 00:42:42:11 00:42:44:12 Duree :02:01 Lisibilite :32
yet like a moving affirmation
0383) 00:42:44:16 00:42:48:16 Duree :04:00 Lisibilite :64
of weakness and power of what he his.
0384) 00:42:49:06 00:42:50:23 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
What he can, or can't give.
0385) 00:42:51:02 00:42:52:14 Duree :01:12 Lisibilite :23
He can't give more, or less.
0386) 00:42:52:18 00:42:54:00 Duree :01:07 Lisibilite :20
It's not much,
0387) 00:42:54:04 00:42:55:22 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
yet it's enormous.
0388) 00:43:39:18 00:43:42:02 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
The first thing he says
0389) 00:43:42:06 00:43:43:15 Duree :01:09 Lisibilite :21
when you meet is:
0390) 00:43:43:19 00:43:45:12 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
can I make your portrait?
0391) 00:43:45:16 00:43:47:18 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
It's his mode of communication.
0392) 00:43:48:00 00:43:50:14 Duree :02:14 Lisibilite :40
Suddenly, he wants
0393) 00:43:53:07 00:43:55:18 Duree :02:11 Lisibilite :39
to start a dialogue with someone,
0394) 00:43:56:14 00:43:59:01 Duree :02:12 Lisibilite :39
so he proposes
to paint their portrait.
0395) 00:43:59:12 00:44:02:04 Duree :02:17 Lisibilite :42
It's his visiting card.
0396) 00:44:40:13 00:44:41:19 Duree :01:06 Lisibilite :19
I believe I am different
0397) 00:44:42:24 00:44:44:18 Duree :01:19 Lisibilite :28
with every single person.
0398) 00:44:44:22 00:44:49:07 Duree :04:10 Lisibilite :70
I believe that I have the power to slip
into their universe like a chameleon.
0399) 00:44:49:13 00:44:52:20 Duree :03:07 Lisibilite :52
But it's not manipulation
0400) 00:44:54:20 00:44:57:11 Duree :02:16 Lisibilite :42
or domination of the other.
0401) 00:44:59:06 00:45:01:14 Duree :02:08 Lisibilite :37
You see, with some people
0402) 00:45:01:18 00:45:03:06 Duree :01:13 Lisibilite :24
we laugh all the time,
0403) 00:45:03:10 00:45:06:19 Duree :03:09 Lisibilite :53
with others, it's more quiet,
0404) 00:45:07:11 00:45:09:01 Duree :01:15 Lisibilite :25
more distant.
0405) 00:45:09:17 00:45:12:23 Duree :03:06 Lisibilite :51
With some it was extremely tense.
0406) 00:45:17:10 00:45:22:01 Duree :04:16 Lisibilite :74
And this serie was
quite dangerous to make,
0407) 00:45:23:00 00:45:26:10 Duree :03:10 Lisibilite :54
because it means sharing
your intimacy for a while.
0408) 00:45:27:21 00:45:30:19 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
The model allows me
0409) 00:45:30:23 00:45:32:16 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
to observe him/her,
0410) 00:45:32:20 00:45:35:18 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
thus offering me his/her intimacy,
0411) 00:45:36:02 00:45:38:15 Duree :02:13 Lisibilite :40
his/her personality...
0411) 00:45:40:10 00:45:43:08 Duree :02:23 Lisibilite :46
with all our innate weaknesses,
0411) 00:45:46:12 00:45:48:08 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
it's a relation of friendship,
0412) 00:45:51:00 00:45:53:06 Duree :02:06 Lisibilite :35
maybe even of love...
0413) 00:45:57:16 00:45:59:12 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
This is quite an erotic art,
0414) 00:45:59:16 00:46:02:10 Duree :02:19 Lisibilite :44
because you always want to know
0415) 00:46:02:14 00:46:04:17 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
what's happening behind, inside.
0416) 00:46:04:21 00:46:06:20 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
There is something emanating,
0417) 00:46:07:20 00:46:11:16 Duree :03:21 Lisibilite :61
quite a magical energy,
0418) 00:46:12:13 00:46:14:18 Duree :02:05 Lisibilite :35
I'd say a very physical energy.
0419) 00:46:15:21 00:46:20:16 Duree :04:20 Lisibilite :76
I see the painting as a body, and
I think there's an identification
0420) 00:46:20:20 00:46:25:05 Duree :04:10 Lisibilite :70
between my own body
and the one I try to recreate.
0421) 00:46:27:01 00:46:30:04 Duree :03:03 Lisibilite :49
Painting is more a matter
0422) 00:46:30:08 00:46:34:00 Duree :03:17 Lisibilite :58
of possession than of representation.
0423) 00:46:34:07 00:46:37:12 Duree :03:05 Lisibilite :51
It's as if you wanted
to possess something...
0424) 00:46:37:23 00:46:41:16 Duree :03:18 Lisibilite :59
it's not the persons,
0425) 00:46:41:21 00:46:44:16 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
but their image that, in a way, they offer,
0426) 00:46:45:22 00:46:49:11 Duree :03:14 Lisibilite :56
that I try to draw out,
that I'd like to have.
0427) 00:46:50:03 00:46:52:06 Duree :02:03 Lisibilite :33
So I must capture...
0428) 00:46:52:16 00:46:55:06 Duree :02:15 Lisibilite :41
That's why they call me a bird of prey.
0429) 00:47:01:03 00:47:05:02 Duree :03:24 Lisibilite :63
Indeed, it often seems to me
that I haven't painted the person,
0430) 00:47:05:08 00:47:07:10 Duree :02:02 Lisibilite :33
but the relation between us.
0431) 00:47:07:14 00:47:10:09 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
What's on the canvas
is the result of a relation,
0432) 00:47:11:11 00:47:15:14 Duree :04:03 Lisibilite :65
a relation that stands in a context,
0433) 00:47:16:05 00:47:18:05 Duree :02:00 Lisibilite :32
that's framed, precisely,
0434) 00:47:18:09 00:47:19:20 Duree :01:11 Lisibilite :23
a little bit artificial,
0435) 00:47:20:07 00:47:22:19 Duree :02:12 Lisibilite :39
and yet real.
0436) 00:47:23:23 00:47:25:19 Duree :01:21 Lisibilite :29
So the portrait is the witness
0437) 00:47:26:03 00:47:28:23 Duree :02:20 Lisibilite :44
of what I've experienced with the person.
0438) 00:47:30:06 00:47:31:24 Duree :01:18 Lisibilite :27
And every time, it's different.
0439) 00:47:33:14 00:47:37:09 Duree :03:20 Lisibilite :60
I feel I wouldn't be the same person,
hadn't I known so-and-so.
0440) 00:47:37:13 00:47:40:06 Duree :02:18 Lisibilite :43
It's more than just making a painting,
0441) 00:47:40:10 00:47:42:09 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
it's learning by experience.
0442) 00:48:00:10 00:48:02:09 Duree :01:24 Lisibilite :31
Where do you want to set it? There?
0443) 00:48:06:00 00:48:07:10 Duree :01:10 Lisibilite :22
A small empty spot.
0444) 00:48:08:08 00:48:10:17 Duree :02:09 Lisibilite :37
Or do I put it somewhere else?
- No, it's fine.
0445) 00:48:13:24 00:48:17:00 Duree :03:01 Lisibilite :48
It's sad when you reach the end.
0446) 00:48:20:04 00:48:22:08 Duree :02:04 Lisibilite :34
We have to part now.
0447) 00:48:27:02 00:48:28:19 Duree :01:17 Lisibilite :26
It will start talking
0448) 00:48:30:06 00:48:32:13 Duree :02:07 Lisibilite :36
during the night, you'll see.
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